Tires! They are the most important car parts. The only connection between the metal bits and the road. Without good tires, it doesn't matter what the chassis and powertrain can do because we don't all drive SoroSuub X-34 Landspeeders...or Light Cycles...yet. The DTM5 came to me with "temporary" tires that were old, hard, crusty, and bumpy. Fun fact: the Chinese "SUNNY" brand front rubbers were on DT Editor-in-Chief Vince's Subaru STi when he nabbed it a few years ago and immediately replaced them with something from Falken. Aside from the great attributes of being free and holding air, the old tires had no value whatsoever.The rear tires were Toyo Proxes4s in 255/40R17, almost 10 years old, and had been in service since before DWood bought the car in 2007. I'm sure they were great when new - and they made for easy and controllable loss of traction at the rear end - but the wear bars had been reached. Cracks were visible, and an 8-9 year old tire shouldn't be trusted at high speed due to aging of the rubber compounds and the off-chance of catastrophic structural failure.
Seemingly unrelated: since being transported from its Colorado sabbatical back to California, the DTM5 exhibited an annoying shimmy starting around 55 mph, reaching maximum amplitude by about 65, then subsiding in severity but still present at all highway speeds. It was a periodic vibration - a lateral oscillation of the front end that would come and go regularly about every 3 seconds on the highway.
I thought the shimmy was down to worn lower control arm bushings, but previous owner DWood assured me that the front end had recently been refurbished top to bottom with new bushings and aluminum lower arms. I thought "I'll take a look next time I have the car on a lift," but gave the shimmy low priority and continued driving around like a cheapskate.
Shimmy or not, the tires on the car in no way lived up to the M5's performance potential; after a few months of procrastination it was time to replace all four meats.
Enter Falken Tire. This Japanese company has a big presence in the American motorsport market, especially in Southern California and especially in drifting. They sponsor several top-tier drivers in the Formula Drift series - Dai Yoshihara, Darren McNamara, and Justin Pawlak. Their website also lists involvement with the former American Le Mans Series (now known as the Tudor United Sports Car Championship) and King of the Hammers off road race.
Falken makes great affordable sticky tires for enthusiasts on a budget, which is why, as Black Iron Racing, E-i-C Vince and I (along with several others) have used their initial RT615 and later RT615k evolution almost exclusively on our 24 Hours of Lemons / ChumpCar endurance racers. Falken is a proud (and inexplicable) sponsor of Black Iron Racing, so when the opportunity arose to put their meats on the E34 M5 in all of automotive media, how could they refuse? The RT615k is listed as a "Street-Legal Motorsports Performance and DOT-Approved Track Tire." To me, this makes it a great choice for a high performance sports sedan that will get driven on the street, highways, and the occasional race track - predominantly in a dry climate.
Full disclosure: in exchange for the kind words and images in this article, and a 2 hour drive to their warehouse in Fontana, Falken provided these RT615k tires for the DTM5 at a discount. Funny, they don't list the 24 Hours of Lemons on their Motorsports page...
I went with 225/45R17 in the front and 255/40R17 in the rear, which were sizes I knew would fit my ACSchnitzer wheels based on previous tires from the car's history. So now I had my new sticky tires. But picking them up at a warehouse left me with the task of getting them mounted. Unfortunately we have no tire machine in the extended DT / Black Iron Racing family but usually use a local cut-rate mom n' pop shop called Tamazula Tire for such tasks. While they have proven to be a great resource, I wanted to be sure that the DTM5's tires were balanced to a higher standard given the high speed capabilities of this executive express BMW.
So at the suggestion of a friend, I took the car and my four new tires to South Bay BMW in Torrance, CA. This dealership is directly adjacent to Penske Cadillac (formerly Ronald Moran Cadillac), which appears in the original Gone in 60 Seconds when the '73 Mustang and pursuing police car both crash into a line of brand new Caddys. To my mild surprise, South Bay BMW gladly accepted the job to install tires I hadn't bought from them, onto non-OE wheels, on my 21 year old car. Upon arriving at their service area I was treated the same as someone who'd recently purchased a brand new 2015 M5 for $93,600+...but I was only going to spend $117.
The DTM5 apparently caused quite the disturbance in the
As a result of this experience I can say: if you have an older BMW and need some light work done, I highly recommend trying out your local BMW dealer - especially if the car is going to attract attention for them or get the employees excited because of its relative rarity.
Out on the road again, and this car is as smooth as it was back when it rolled out of the hand-assembly workshop in Garching in 1993. The front end shimmy is completely cured and highway driving is so much quieter and more pleasant now. 100 mph now feels just like 60 mph; the only difference being a visual sense of speed from stuff outside the windows flying by faster. The M5's long Autobahn legs (i.e. tall gears) really shine through without any annoying vibrations and I can't wait to take it on a longer road trip...once I fix a leaky oil pan and rebuild the shifter.
I haven't had the car on a track or autocross course yet but when I do, I'll try to quantify the grip potential of the Falken RT615ks with my handy (and cheap) iPhone datalogging app. On our E36 325i Lemons car these tires let us maintain high steady state cornering speeds, communicate wonderfully back through the steering wheel, and last for an entire 14 hour or 24 hour race. They are not as grippy as an R-compound (i.e. "full race") tire but they strike a nice balance between life and traction. The DTM5's rear end doesn't break loose as easily now, but that just means I have to thoroughly commit to the slide.
Honing my driving skills while hooning; it's a noble pursuit.
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Nice write-up, thanks. So I don't want to be the dick that makes a negative comment on a positive article, but here's a tip from a guy who has worked at BMW dealers before----DON'T EVER LET THEM WASH IT!!!! I have yet to see a dealer who actually hand washes them for the courtesy wash---they usually get run through the big spinnning blue brush washes which should be re-named "Paintwork Swirl Generators". Multiple times a month also, the high schooler lot attendants would place the cars in the wash wrong, and instant exterior mirror removal would be the result.
ReplyDeleteJust a friendly tip from a guy who loves your car.
This car needs a thorough detailing/polishing/scratch removal job, so if there was any swirl generation from the dealer wash I would've never noticed. Thanks for the tip though.
DeleteSuch a cool car. I Think I am going to sell my Sportsvvvagen and buy a e39 or e34 m5. Maybe when the time comes DT can help me find one?
ReplyDeleteAs a current owner of both a VW Sportwagen TDI (common rail, 6-spd manual) and this E34 M5, I can say they are both great machines but fill very different needs. The only overlaps in the Venn diagram are long-distance cruising comfort and 4-door/5-seat configuration. If I'm in a penny pinching mood or need more cargo space we take the wagon on road trips. If we want to get there quickly and in style, fuel costs be damned, then it's the M5.
DeleteWe will definitely help you find one; in fact that would be a perfect challenge for the Mid-Week Match Up.
My is Autotragic and is constantly trying to shift into 6th a 13mph. There is a "sport" mode but I think this may be false advertising. Have to say I love the MPG and the space. I have even considered modding it but I think If I resell it the money will go to waist. Most the people where I live like them stock and Jack Johnson playing on the stereo. Looking forward to DT readers finding a M5!
DeleteNice to hear it got some new rubber. When are you taking it to Buttonwillow or Fontana? haha.
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I had long since sworn off Falken entirely based upon back-to-back rubbish experiences with them about a decade ago and am pretty hesitant to go back (low-mile tread separation on 2 sets in a row).
All shilling for the man aside (j/k), car guy to car guy, would you recommend the RT615 for the "high school sweat-heart" 240z? My Rota RBs need shoes, and they just stopped making my most favoritist tire on the planet (Dunlop ZII). I'm looking for a low-buck alternative DOT-legal tire that isn't a Hankook or Sumitomo.
Almost brought it along to Fontana a few weeks ago for a SpeedVentures trackday when I was testing a crappy race car. Decided against whomping on it just yet for three reasons:
Deletea) needs an oil change / oil pan re-sealed
2) rear tires do rub a bit on the fender lips (just barely but the Roval banking would grossly exacerbate this)
d) shifter needs a rebuild, grinds into 3rd gear with "spirited" shifting due to sloppy bushings I think
Rest assured it will get some track time at a local establishment.
I love my Michelin Pilot Exalto 205/55 ZR 16's on my Audi 5000 Quattro for spring, summer, and fall.
DeleteThe tire gives me good feedback at the limit and regularly frustrates the heck out of a local Miata guy on the freeway ramp! (He starts stepping out the rear end and I'm still right behind him and not even squeeling the tires!) Not bad for a high setting sedan
I drive the Audi 110 miles a day doing my work commute. The tires are not rated for good wear but have been doing great. They have held their balance over the past 20,000 miles and continue to instill confidence on some early morning high speed runs across Michigan.
I don't recommend them as a track focused tire, but for an autobahn cruiser it is doing the job.
And to answer your second question (as best I can), I've never had any problems with the RT615 or newer RT615k. They are probably the most popular tire in Lemons style endurance racing because they are cheap, reasonably grippy for the price, and can last for a full 24 hour road race if you're careful with car setup and not flat-spotting them with too many brake lockups. No problems with them on the M5 so far as a road car tire.
DeleteThanks for the insight gents. Not that I'll ever drive the Datsun in the rain, but any insight as to how the RT615 handles a little bit of moisture? Not talking downpour, just an afternoon shower, the likes of which we haven't seen here in SoCal since... February-ish.
DeleteWould love to see some video of the E34 driven in anger. Do you still have the turbine wheels?
These tires have been fine for me (and our "racing team") in mild wet weather but I haven't experienced them in a full downpour. They do have 3 full circumferential grooves and some transverse grooves.
DeleteThe DTM5 is a '93 so it came with the M-System II wheels, aka Throwing Stars from the factory. But no, I don't have them. I think they were pulled off two owners ago and likely sold.
I haven't seen a dubstep-free tire-roasting video in ages. How refreshing.
ReplyDeleteRe this tire's popularity in crapcan racing: we run the direzza 2 on our 928 estate and have been pretty happy with them. That being said, a local racer with a good bit of knowledge about RWD chump/lemons tells me that rivals are the bees knees for this power train setup. Now, y'all done thrown these Falkens in the contemplative mix. Any thoughts, CFlo?
ReplyDeleteAlso, my DD 991 has started with the same type of harmonic shimmy-from the rear in my case-at a frequency of approximately every 3 seconds at 75-95mph after which it becomes less noticeable. Yes, the OEM pirellis are ready for replacement (at almost 12k miles so not too bad) and I will be given Falkens a look. But I need some wet capability here in SoFla because peninsula.
I haven't done a comparative analysis on the popular crapcan tires but I've used Hankooks as well and they didn't feel as grippy. Granted that was on a porky 1G DSM, turbo + AWD, so the tires didn't really stand a chance. Next race for me is in a week and a half so I'll take careful note of who runs which tires and find out if anyone I know has done back-to-back testing.
DeleteDD 991? That will be DT budget friendly in what, 15 years?
And no comments on my Tronificated lead-in pic yet...too much or not enough?
BavaraTron picture is awesome. When I first saw it I thought I was hallucinating...and I said...damn...its Thursday already?
DeleteThe Tronified bimmer takes the cake, brother. Well done.
DeleteThe 991 rotates with the 1800 and (hopefully very soon) with a 242GT in DD duty. Truthfully, I enjoy driving the 1800 more.Thanks for any intel on the rubber.
Nice writeup. Weak ass doughnuts.
ReplyDeleteThey were just teasers, trolling for comments. Looks like I caught a big one.
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